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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.02 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane You're monsters. There's nothing remotely human about you - at the very best just a cold, alien approximation of what you think humans are like. How do I know this?
Originally by: Andreus LeHane Aha, I see now. You're the Nation's satirist.
To satirize is human no? I've never met an alien with a sense of humour. Seriously get a grip LeHane.
The one thing I agree with the Sansha drone's on is that the Empires you fight for are quite capable of inhumanity and genocide. Its convenient for you to forget that the Nation was founded by a blend of Caldari business pragmatics merged with Amarrian slaving test-bed technologies (and a cast of millions of unwilling Matari experimental subjects) but the reality will not go away.
By all means fight the Nation (as will I) but don't believe for a moment your nationalist empires are morally superior to the hierarchies of technological slavery of the Nation. Sansha pushed the dream of control beyond the ambitions of theocracy and state administration its true. But not far beyond.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.02 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane Ah yes, it's all very well for the great and the good to fight the Sansha when it's ideologically convenient, no? I was fighting Naqam two years ago and all your organisation had to do back then was heap scorn on mine for taking a stand against them, yet not a single word of critique did I hear for the Nation and Blood Raider s****that pressed upon us.
Are you really playing the who shot at the Sansha first card? You are beyond pathetic
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.02 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane You may now at least begin to comprehend the root from which my displeasure grows.
I think itĘs best surmised as bovine discomfort mingled with a little adolescent foot-stamping at the unsettling presence of conversational elegance, military capability and historical prestige beyond your limited ken.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.02 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane You really have fundamentally overestimated exactly how important you are in people's perceptions, haven't you?
You and the other trolls have no real existence beyond typing nonsense about us on galnet LeHane so no, I think the estimation is quite accurate. But by all means prove me wrong by continuing to post long paragraphs about why we are "unimportant" to your perceptions.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.02 23:18:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 02/07/2010 23:23:47
Originally by: Andreus LeHane I barely have the significance of feeling required to moderately dislike Star Fraction.
Yet you have plenty of spite and vitreol to type out 2000 words of childish ranting on the last page. Something tells me you aren't being entirely honest about your wounded feelings LeHane. The Cosmopolite eviscerated you in debate and I've mocked you cruelly. Whatever will you say next?
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.02 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane ... someone drastically overestimating their own importance.
And yet still you speak. Perhaps you should go and lay down if you have nothing else of note to say in this thread?
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.02 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane You still speak as well, Constantine.
I always make a point of speaking well child.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.03 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane ... it's somewhat telling that you feel the need to paint quite literally anyone who criticises you as a charlatan. Literally you do it to everyone nowadays.
Its a sign of the times that our enemies generally are charlatans and toothless galnet ranters without presence in space, the wherewithal to make honest critique or indeed any possession of other positive traits whatsoever. Perhaps we're victims of our own success to a degree. We always said nationalism was a corrupt ideology defended only by mewling half-men incapable of achieving anything but bad-tempered whinging the summit, but its still a little bit shocking how definitively right we are.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.03 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane So literally your defence to being unable to defend your ideologies ...
Why would we need to defend anything against a gutless windbag incapable of action in space? You don't stand for anything LeHane. You don't do anything and you don't mean anything. I'm not entirely sure why you why you think we'd need to spare you anything but gentle mockery.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.03 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane My self-image of who and what I am is solid enough that a few baseless allegations from you won't crack it.
I think you are doing an excellent job of painting yourself into meaningless obscurity right here yourself. Please continue posting essay-length screeds of ranting about causes you care nothing about though, its always convincing when that happens.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.04 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane You're almost as good at evading the actual question I asked as Star Fraction is.
Did you actually ask any questions amongst your childish ranting and desperate attention-seeking display earlier?
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.04 16:10:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 04/07/2010 16:12:06
Originally by: Andreus LeHane
Originally by: Jade Constantine Did you actually ask any questions amongst your childish ranting and desperate attention-seeking display earlier?
Yes.
links?
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.04 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane despite their rude and largely baseless nature.
Thats a "no" then. Okay if it was just senseless ranting we'll leave it at that.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.04 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane you consider anything that disagrees with you "senseless ranting".
No, I consider senseless ranting to be senseless ranting. The only thing you have been doing since your first post in this thread.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.04 17:33:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 04/07/2010 17:33:59
Originally by: Andreus LeHane
Why are you unwilling to address the moral dissonance of uniting with someone you dislike against a greater threat yet condemning others for doing the same?
I'm entirely happy to discuss aspects of this taken clause by clause. If you control your temper and ask questions without crazy ranting you'll find it much easier to communicate.
Originally by: Andreus LeHane Why do all your answers revolve around defamation and ad hominem attacks rather than around addressing the points raised?
They don't.
Originally by: Andreus LeHane Why do you erroneously believe that you have the luxury of choosing your critics?
I don't erroneously believe that.
Originally by: Andreus LeHane Why are you unwilling to address others with civility when you often complain about their own inability to do the same?
I am not unwilling to address those with civility.
Originally by: Andreus LeHane Why are you making critical value judgements about actions that clearly align with your own modus operandi?
They don't.
Originally by: Andreus LeHane Why, if you consider me among the least of your critics, and my arguments so easy to provide evidence against, do you categorically and repeatedly refuse to defend your views with anything other than irrelevant invective and ad hominem?
Argumentum ad hominem is not always fallacious, for in some instances questions of personal conduct, character, motives, etc., are legitimate and relevant to the issue
Originally by: Andreus LeHane Does it stem merely from a childish unwillingness to engage people who dare to disagree with you, or does the unwillingness stem from a lack of viable defences?
Neither.
Originally by: Andreus LeHane Why should a viewpoint whose proponents refuse to defend it be awarded any validity or respect?
That is not the case here.
Originally by: Andreus LeHane When are you going to start addressing people who disagree with you on the level of an equal, as I am able to do
I don't believe you are.
Originally by: Andreus LeHane ... (such as with the ILF, I-RED, ForgeTech, Veto, various FDU corporations and more moderate members of the Amarr Empire but am unwilling to do so with you due to your utter lack of respect, dignity or honour) instead of treating them as inferiors?
Your own inability to communicate with civility is your problem.
Originally by: Andreus LeHane And a question I believe provides an entirely appropriate summation of all of the above: What the hell is your problem?
In short. Liars.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.04 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane
These are not answers. These are simply denials,
Originally by: Andreus LeHane
The allegations you have made against me are not true
And you wonder why nobody bothers discussing anything with you.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane Here's another allegation - you ignore everything in a post except what's convenient to reply to.
For convenient read neccessary. It is not neccessary to respond to every last piece of ranting from a worthless troll. You have very little credibility, influence or diplomatic weight. Why should anyone really care about your insane ramblings?
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane Veto, of all people, provided their extensive resources to defend us from the falacious allegations... merely because we asked.Think about that.
Bring them.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane Veto, of all people, provided their extensive resources to defend us from the falacious allegations... merely because we asked.Think about that.
Quote: I'm sorry?
I had the distinct impression you were trying to threaten us with Veto. If thats so I repeat:
"bring them".
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.04 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus LeHane where you see any ambiguous comment as a potential threat.
Obviously you made a mistake in name-dropping Veto then.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2010.07.04 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Verone As for the rest of this charade... Star Fraction will continue to walk the walk, and those who oppose them will continue to give them hell rant toothlessly on the forums.
Fixed it for you.
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